Great job! It's the most stupid new rule ever created if you ask me, just a big "screw you" to the fluff...
Fluff comes behind making money. That's all GW cares about making more money. Lots of players will go out and buy tonnes of demons and Grey Knight and then in the next rule book in two years or whenever, GW will stop this rule and you will no longer be able to do it. Then what does everyone do with their demons. GW are hoping everyone will have too many to sell and they will just end up buying more to have their own demon army. This is a marketing scam, if you ask me. How else can GW let Space Marines summon chaos, what would happen in the fluff if a SM did this, his own troops would shoot him. Money before fluff and spirit of the game.
This is just perfect. Nailed this "new situation". All thumbs up for this.
...and yes, I play Chaos and feel the pain of the poor demons.
;D ROFL !!!!!!
So...this is canon?
GODS DAMNIT GW!!!
WHO THE FUCK WROTE THE NEW RULES AND WHERE DO THEY LIVE?
Also, this made me laugh.
Well. It completely goes against two decades of background, because someone thought 'it would be kinda cool'. So at a guess, his name is "Ward", and you can get in the queue behind all us Inq players when he's finally located. . . .
From the Ward, and the Cruddace. Oh Emperor, deliver us. . . .
Well, for some reason, invulnerable saves in fantasy are called "WARD SAVES", if you get what i'm saying
Tss, everyone is a radical nowadays.
Exept of Nids , so, we are the cleanes of all 40k fractions :D
Well, nids can go on a "Apocalypse came" alliance with deamons, and then, summon even moar deamons.
I can understand rouge guardsmen or rouge space marines but the fact that tigrus and other loyalists can summon deamons is a bit odd
Up for the 8th ed HH supplement: Primachs can summon greater daemon units, and they can even become greater-greater daemons - loyalist and heretic alike!
Loyalists summoning daemons is fluffrape, but what abaou freckin ELDAR summoning DAEMONS!!!! It's like a vegetarian working at a slaugtherhouse.
bad example. a vegan don't eat meat, doesn't means he can't work on a slaughterhouse, u could have said " a PETA activist" instead :p
as for eldar calling (slanesh) deamons, It's more like a bunny sleeping in the wolf den
I think it is super fluffy. Loyalists COULD summon demons, if they cared to. In the fluff they, of course, they generally don't.
Now you have the option. Personally, I think of my games as part of an overall story, my army changes over time. Like a character in a role-playing game.
This is just another tool GW has provided to play the game in a way that you enjoy. If it doesn't fit your army or gaming group, don't do it.
Orks COULD ally with humans, and a very few of them actually does (Freebooterz, Blood Axes) which is fine. However seeing Ghazghkull, Yarrick and Helbrecht going SBFF against chaos for example would've been way over the limit.
Same as with Eldrad summoning a Keeper of Secrets, or Mephiston a Bloodthirster.
Holy Emperor thank you for being one of the only sane people here. One of my close friends just gets from all round nice guy to whiny little prissy whenever it comes to these "balance problems"as he puts it. If you don't like it. don't play armies with it period.
But whatever do you mean loyalists summoning daemons? Please report to your local Inquisitor's outpost asap.
I'm appalled that GW lets there be so many Ultramarines out there, per the fluff there should only be 1000 Ultramarines total, yet there are far more, heck there's more than 10,000 Marneus Calgars out there! It's like they don't even care for canon.
I'm sorry? There is only one Calgar, and UltraSmurfs are only depicted so frequently because "...they are the paragons of what an Astartes should be." Not that I agree, but the Ultramarines Chapter has always been around 1000 men. Unless I see proof otherwise.
Your sarcasm detector is clearly broken.
The joke is that he is referring to all of the models around the world. Ultramarines.
khornate daemons wouldn't give a toss. skulls are skulls and anyone who has one is game.
ah, got an idea from this : Why would Khorn deamons fight against gohsts in whfb ?
so much "blood for the blood god" vs necrons (or undead in whfb)
And , By the way, its also about blood for the Blood God ;)
I collect and paint a successor chapter of the blood angels, which means I use the same models but converted to suit my needs and also use the same rules for that model from the codex e.g. Dante even though it isn't actually him I have to use the same rules and stats. So it makes sense for situations like this to give them the option to do something the characters themselves wouldn't use in the fluff. The chapter I created background is that they are a renegade chapter but not for chaos but not for the imperium (kind of like the soul drinkers) so it would make sense that some in the chapter are beginning to walk the dark path and the rest not as fanatical to the imperial creed. I may use daemons I may not but this gives me the option to decided what I feel when I am playing and role playing.
Eh, I think the unbound rules are fine. It's the only way to allow for any fluff situation in game without making the most goddamn absurdly complicated alliance rules in existence. If people want to use it fluffwise they can if they don't they were going to make fluff free power lists anyway so what does it change?
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