carlsbergauss
18/6/2014 07:08:54
Great job! It's the most stupid new rule ever created if you ask me, just a big "screw you" to the fluff...
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Sean
19/6/2014 19:21:51
Fluff comes behind making money. That's all GW cares about making more money. Lots of players will go out and buy tonnes of demons and Grey Knight and then in the next rule book in two years or whenever, GW will stop this rule and you will no longer be able to do it. Then what does everyone do with their demons. GW are hoping everyone will have too many to sell and they will just end up buying more to have their own demon army. This is a marketing scam, if you ask me. How else can GW let Space Marines summon chaos, what would happen in the fluff if a SM did this, his own troops would shoot him. Money before fluff and spirit of the game.
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Chaoswulfen
18/6/2014 07:32:10
This is just perfect. Nailed this "new situation". All thumbs up for this.
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MKR
18/6/2014 07:44:11
;D ROFL !!!!!!
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Mista ?
18/6/2014 09:03:19
So...this is canon?
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Panzer_Engel
19/6/2014 17:52:40
Well. It completely goes against two decades of background, because someone thought 'it would be kinda cool'. So at a guess, his name is "Ward", and you can get in the queue behind all us Inq players when he's finally located. . . .
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RedRage
19/6/2014 22:34:55
Well, for some reason, invulnerable saves in fantasy are called "WARD SAVES", if you get what i'm saying
Ravenor
18/6/2014 12:17:04
Tss, everyone is a radical nowadays.
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MKR
19/6/2014 20:27:01
Exept of Nids , so, we are the cleanes of all 40k fractions :D
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RedRage
19/6/2014 22:37:47
Well, nids can go on a "Apocalypse came" alliance with deamons, and then, summon even moar deamons.
Pskontz
18/6/2014 12:53:50
I can understand rouge guardsmen or rouge space marines but the fact that tigrus and other loyalists can summon deamons is a bit odd
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Petrow
18/6/2014 21:22:04
Up for the 8th ed HH supplement: Primachs can summon greater daemon units, and they can even become greater-greater daemons - loyalist and heretic alike!
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Atlas
18/6/2014 23:58:42
Loyalists summoning daemons is fluffrape, but what abaou freckin ELDAR summoning DAEMONS!!!! It's like a vegetarian working at a slaugtherhouse.
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RedRage
19/6/2014 22:43:43
bad example. a vegan don't eat meat, doesn't means he can't work on a slaughterhouse, u could have said " a PETA activist" instead :p
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Kal
19/6/2014 00:17:23
I think it is super fluffy. Loyalists COULD summon demons, if they cared to. In the fluff they, of course, they generally don't.
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Petrow
20/6/2014 00:47:28
Orks COULD ally with humans, and a very few of them actually does (Freebooterz, Blood Axes) which is fine. However seeing Ghazghkull, Yarrick and Helbrecht going SBFF against chaos for example would've been way over the limit.
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TheBossman40k
20/6/2014 22:08:54
Holy Emperor thank you for being one of the only sane people here. One of my close friends just gets from all round nice guy to whiny little prissy whenever it comes to these "balance problems"as he puts it. If you don't like it. don't play armies with it period.
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19/6/2014 00:37:17
I'm appalled that GW lets there be so many Ultramarines out there, per the fluff there should only be 1000 Ultramarines total, yet there are far more, heck there's more than 10,000 Marneus Calgars out there! It's like they don't even care for canon.
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Alphic Hydra
22/6/2014 00:33:25
I'm sorry? There is only one Calgar, and UltraSmurfs are only depicted so frequently because "...they are the paragons of what an Astartes should be." Not that I agree, but the Ultramarines Chapter has always been around 1000 men. Unless I see proof otherwise.
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Kal
23/6/2014 01:00:51
Your sarcasm detector is clearly broken.
Moriar
19/6/2014 07:16:21
khornate daemons wouldn't give a toss. skulls are skulls and anyone who has one is game.
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MKR
19/6/2014 20:30:22
ah, got an idea from this : Why would Khorn deamons fight against gohsts in whfb ?
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RedRage
19/6/2014 22:46:34
so much "blood for the blood god" vs necrons (or undead in whfb)
MKR
19/6/2014 20:31:48
And , By the way, its also about blood for the Blood God ;)
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Dalwolf
20/6/2014 13:23:32
I collect and paint a successor chapter of the blood angels, which means I use the same models but converted to suit my needs and also use the same rules for that model from the codex e.g. Dante even though it isn't actually him I have to use the same rules and stats. So it makes sense for situations like this to give them the option to do something the characters themselves wouldn't use in the fluff. The chapter I created background is that they are a renegade chapter but not for chaos but not for the imperium (kind of like the soul drinkers) so it would make sense that some in the chapter are beginning to walk the dark path and the rest not as fanatical to the imperial creed. I may use daemons I may not but this gives me the option to decided what I feel when I am playing and role playing.
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Samules
24/6/2014 07:51:11
Eh, I think the unbound rules are fine. It's the only way to allow for any fluff situation in game without making the most goddamn absurdly complicated alliance rules in existence. If people want to use it fluffwise they can if they don't they were going to make fluff free power lists anyway so what does it change?
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